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Jeff Rippey
Acupuncturist
- Saint Joseph, MO
- Colorado School of Traditional Chinese Medicine
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Why It's Hard To Tell Patients Where Needles Might Be Placed
I've been answering questions on this site for a couple of years now. There's been a recent trend towards acupressure questions which I addressed in my first blog post. Generally,...
Why It's Difficult to Answer Acupressure/Pressure Point Questions
As part of this site, patients have the capability of asking questions of practitioners and subject matter experts. Recently I’ve been seeing a lot of questions that take the...
What should you not do before acupuncture?
Why does acupuncture hurt sometimes?
First off, we like to think that body structures, particularly those under the skin, are static. They aren't. Depending on temperature, time of year, hydration levels and so on things like vessels and small nerve branches can shift around. Since we're not using x-ray vision when placing needles, it can be hard to know precisely where things are. Most acupuncturists are well trained in gross anatomy, but if a patient is mildly dehydrated and things have shifted slightly as a result, it's difficult to predict what might be in the way. This can lead to a point that wasn't painful previously being painful at the current treatment.
Secondly, I often see acupuncturists using the thinnest possible needles under the mistaken assumption that thinner will cause less pain. It seems paradoxical, but this isn't true. Part of the pain (or lack of pain) in needle insertion is related to how fast the needle gets through the first fractions of a millimeter of skin. Thinner needles are more bendy and will spend more energy on flexing rather than getting through those first few fractions of a millimeter, which makes thinner needles much more likely to be less comfortable relative to a thicker needle (we're talking very small differences here. My standard needle is 0.25mm in diameter. Many acupuncturists I know will use 0.18mm or 0.16mm needles. Generally speaking, I've found these thinner needles to be very uncomfortable relative to a thicker 0.22mm or 0.25mm).
The last reason you may be experiencing undue discomfort is: you might not be seeing a board certified and state licensed acupuncturist. Right now in the US many states will allow chiropractors, physical therapists, and sometimes athletic trainers to perform a procedure that uses acupuncture needles. I like to refer to these folks as providing "acupuncture like" services. Most of the time their training consists of 100 hours or less with zero hours of supervised practice. These folks are often allowed to advertise their services as "acupuncture" which causes a great deal of public confusion. A board certified, state licensed acupuncturist has a minimum of 1,900 hours of training in acupuncture and Chinese medicine with somewhere between 500 and 750 hours of supervised practice. Most of us have much more than this. There is often a big difference between seeing someone who offers "acupuncture like" services under the scope of some other licensure and someone who actually trained and is board certified in acupuncture and Chinese medicine.
Is acupuncture "painless"? No, it isn't and we shouldn't be marketing acupuncture this way. It's very normal to have a very short lived sharp pinching sensation during initial needle insertion. This should fade in a second or two - if it doesn't, you should let your provider know and have the needle removed or repositioned.
There is a list of sensations that are considered normal or even desirable during needle insertion and retention. These include: a dull aching or dull throbbing, a short lived pins and needles sensation that propagates up or down from the needle site, or a mild distending sensation around the needle (somewhat like someone is blowing a balloon up under the skin).
If any of these sensations are too intense or distracting, tell your provider so the needle(s) can either be removed or repositioned. Do not just lay there in discomfort and don't let any provider, acupuncturist or not, guilt or shame you in to not addressing any needles that might be painful or too intense.
How long does it take for acupuncture to work for stress?
1. There are a lot of providers in the US who are offering "acupuncture-like" services under the scope of some other licensure (like chiropractors, physical therapists and, increasingly, even athletic trainers). The problem is, unless they happen to be dual credentialed and licensed, none of them have actually attended or graduated from a school of Chinese medicine - most of the time they have 100 hours or less of training (compared to 2,000 to 4,000 hours of the typical graduate of a US based Chinese medicine program). They usually offer what we refer to as "cookbook acupuncture" which rarely works - in the unusual case where "cookbook acupuncture" does work, it can take quite a few treatments to get the job done. Since I don't know what provider you're seeing or what education and credentialing they have, it's hard to set your expectations.
2. The diagnostic model in Chinese medicine is individualized. Even though people might experience the same symptoms, they often don't experience those symptoms for the same reason. Chinese medicine recognizes this and the diagnostic model accounts for these individual differences. Just like conventional medicine, in Chinese medicine some diagnoses are easier to treat than others. Without actually seeing a patient and diagnosing them, it's hard to provide anything other than the most general guidance in terms of how many treatments it might take to get to symptom decrease or symptom resolution.
3. Acupuncture and Chinese medicine are not a monolithic system. In other words there isn't one single acupuncture approach. There are a variety of acupuncture systems in use around the world and different practitioners sometimes specialize in different systems. Some of these systems are a better fit for certain kinds of issues than others. So, without knowing what system(s) of acupuncture you have available to you, it's hard to set your expectations in terms of how long it might take to relieve your symptoms.
All that being said, assuming you're seeing an actual NCCAOM board certified and state licensed acupuncturist (L.Ac. or R.Ac.), it might take something on the order of 5-7 treatments to get your stress under control. Since stress is one of those issues that often has a significant lifestyle component, a patients ability to make changes outside of the treatment schedule can have a large impact on the total number of treatments necessary. Also, with stress in particular, it's entirely probable that you'll notice a difference in a treatment or two.
Is acupuncture good for osteoarthritis?
For the best results, please make sure you're seeing a board certified and state licensed acupuncturist. At a minimum they should have an L.Ac. or R.Ac. credential. If you're outside of CA, you can use the "Find a Practitioner" lookup at NCCAOM.org to get a list of providers local to you.
How long do the effects of acupuncture last for anxiety?
How long a single treatment might last for any given condition is highly variable. There aren't any hard and fast rules, for some folks one treatment might last months and for others a single treatment might last hours.
Most studies show that acupuncture's effects after 8-10 treatments can be quite long lived - upwards of a year in pain management.
All of which is a very complicated (and long) way of saying - for any given individual it's hard to say exactly how long the effects of a single treatment might last. Sometimes it's hard to say exactly how long the effects of a course of therapy might last. Your best bet is to commit to 3-5 treatments and see if your anxiety is getting better. If so, start spacing the treatments out until the anxiety starts to return. Then receive acupuncture at that interval for a few months and see how you feel.
The last variable here is the type of provider you see. Please make sure you're seeing a board certified and state licensed acupuncturist - they will have either an L.Ac. or R.Ac. credential. If you're outside CA, you can use the "Find a Practitioner" lookup at NCCAOM.org to get a list of local providers.
Does acupuncture help swollen knees?
If your doctor can't come up with a reason why the fluid is present or they rule out more serious problems, then acupuncture can probably help.
I do a lot of work with this type of issue and get excellent results with a technique called moxibustion. There are a variety of moxibustion techniques, but they all involve the burning of an herb (Artemesia vulgaris) with the application of heat to the swollen area.
For the best results, please make sure you're seeing a provider who is board certified and state licensed. At a minimum they should have an L.Ac. or R.Ac. credential. If you're outside CA, you can use the "Find a Practitioner" link at NCCAOM.org to get a list of local providers.
Can acupuncture treat sweating?
For something like this, you need to make sure you see a provider who is actually trained in Chinese medicine and licensed as an acupuncturist in your state. If you're not in CA, you can start with the "Find a Practitioner" link at NCCAOM.org to get a list of folks local to you.
Is acupuncture better than chiropractic?
I treat a lot of headache and migraine, and I often get results for people when chiropractic has failed. Is that because acupuncture is better or is that because I'm getting the folks for whom chiropractic wasn't the answer?
Here's what I'd suggest. If these headaches are a "new" phenomenon for you or they've increased in frequency and/or intensity, you should start with your primary care physician and possibly neurological consult. There are some things we need to rule out first.
Assuming you have gone this route and nothing unusual was detected, use the "Find a Practitioner" lookup at NCCAOM.org and get a list of board certified acupuncture providers local to you. Call around to a few and see if you can find someone who works primarily with pain or headache/migraine. Plan to go to at least 3 treatment sessions. By the 3rd or 4th session you should be noticing a change in frequency and/or severity of your headaches. If you aren't it might be time to think about either adding chiropractic to the acupuncture or switching to chiropractic.
Can acupuncture cure sweaty hands and feet?
This is a case where you need to make sure you're seeing someone who attended a school of Chinese medicine and is licensed as an acupuncturist in your state. If you're not in CA, you can use the "Find a Practitioner" lookup at NCCAOM.org to get a list of local providers.
Can acupuncture help with aging skin?
I'm not trained in nor do I practice cosmetic acupuncture. Your best bet would be to go to the "Find a Practitioner" link at NCCAOM.org, get a list of local providers, and start looking at web-sites or calling to see if anyone in your area is trained in this specialty.
Can acupuncture help with skin problems?
I'm not trained in nor do I practice cosmetic acupuncture. Your best bet would be to go to the "Find a Practitioner" link at NCCAOM.org, get a list of local providers and check out their web-sites or call them to see if they work with cosmetic acupuncture.
Does acupuncture cause itching?
If you're talking about a more systemic or body wide itch post treatment, it's possible you might be allergic to the needle itself. Acupuncture needles are typically stainless steel which includes nickel and, while it isn't common, I have seen people react to the nickel in the needles.
Can acupuncture damage nerves?
These are people who attended and graduated from accredited programs of acupuncture and Chinese medicine. Licensed acupuncturists (L.Ac. or R.Ac.) are generally well trained in terms of the anatomy and structure in and around acupuncture points and patients are much less likely to experience an adverse event when seeing an L.Ac./R.Ac. than when using a provider like a physical therapist (PT) or chiropractor (DC) who is offering an "acupuncture like" service under the scope of their existing license.
How long does it take for acupuncture to work for panic attacks?
1. I don't know if you're seeing or planning to see an actual board certified acupuncturist or a provider who is offering "acupuncture-like" services under the scope of their existing license. There is a big difference between someone trained and board certified specifically in acupuncture and Chinese medicine and someone who has taken a few seminars and is now offering the service. Generally speaking, providers offering acupuncture under the scope of some other licensure are practicing "cookbook acupuncture" which rarely works well for any condition.
2. Chinese medicine uses an individualized diagnostic system. In other words, the reason you have anxiety (or any condition) may not be the same reason someone else is experiencing anxiety (or any condition). Without actually seeing and diagnosing you, it's hard to say how many treatments might be required.
That being said, there are some general guidelines. Assuming your anxiety is more towards mild or moderate, a full course of therapy might be something on the order of 6-8 treatment sessions. Patients are normally noticing a difference in their symptoms by the 3rd or 4th session.
If your anxiety is severe, you may be looking at 10-12 total treatments and may not notice symptoms reducing until the 4th or 5th session. Also in severe cases, you may get faster results by combining acupuncture with therapy and/or prescription medication.
What does acupuncture do for anxiety?
Can acupuncture help panic attacks?
How long does acupuncture take to work for depression?
Without seeing you and going through the diagnostic process, it's very difficult to provide any kind of time frame for symptom resolution. Generally speaking, a course of acupuncture treatment might be something in the range of 8-10 treatments. Usually patients start noticing a difference in their symptoms around the 3rd or 4th treatment session.
Is acupuncture effective for depression?
Where do you put acupuncture needles for anxiety?
1. There are multiple different systems of acupuncture, each of which has a slightly different approach to treatment. Depending on what kind of acupuncturist you see, you might end up with a wide variety of potential needle placement(s).
2. A lot will depend on why exactly you are experiencing anxiety. The Chinese diagnostic and treatment model is individualized. The best way to explain this is through an example - three people could walk in to my office tomorrow complaining of anxiety and, in the Chinese diagnostic model, they might all have anxiety for different reasons. These different root causes will require three different treatment approaches. Even though they're all subjectively experiencing anxiety, they all receive different treatments and the needle placement could be entirely different for each person.
Can acupuncture regulate metabolism?
Is acupuncture going to directly increase/decrease metabolic rate? There's no evidence that I'm aware of which would indicate this is the case.